Gunn is very honest about his early days in the DCU and what's ahead. In the interview, he admits to killing off an entire DCU project due to a poor script, and he talks openly about his challenges with figuring out the future of Batman in the DCU. Here’s what he said:

“Batman has to have a reason to exist, right? You can’t just make a Batman movie because Batman is Warner Bros.’ biggest character—which he is. But it has to be because there’s a need for him in the DCU, and that version of Batman isn’t exactly like Matt [Reeves’] version.” “But at the same time, it’s not going to be a campy Batman either. I’m not into that. I don’t want a humorous or overly stylized Batman. That’s something we’re wrestling with,” Gunn told Rolling Stone. “Every possible Batman story seems to have already been told. It feels like half of DC’s comics over the last 30 years have featured Batman. He’s the most famous and popular superhero in the world, and people love him because he’s compelling—but too much of him can also make him feel stale. So how do you make something fresh and worth watching?”

Though Gunn has largely dismissed the idea of including Robert Pattinson’s Batman from Reeves’ universe in the new DCU, he still leaves room by saying, “Never say never.” Recently, he gave a status update on The Batman 2, stating it’s not canceled, but there’s no script yet and that Reeves is “slow,” though not in a negative way—it just takes as long as it takes. “Let him do his thing, man,” Gunn remarked.

Beyond discussing his current struggles with Batman, Gunn also reflected on his past at Marvel. He appreciates not being under pressure from WB to churn out a set number of films within tight deadlines, unlike Disney’s approach with the MCU:

“That wasn’t fair. It was wrong, and it hurt them,” Gunn said of Marvel. “We don’t have that kind of mandate at DC—no requirement to release a certain number of movies or shows every year. We’ll only move forward with things we believe are of the highest quality. Obviously, some will be great, some not so much, but overall, we aim for consistently high quality. Nothing gets greenlit unless there’s a screenplay I personally approve of.”

Whether or not the MCU is truly “killed” is still debatable. The post-Endgame phase has seen both misses and major wins like Spider-Man: No Way Home and Deadpool and Wolverine. Now comes a crucial stretch with upcoming titles such as this summer’s Fantastic Four and two ambitious Avengers films featuring unconventional ideas like Robert Downey Jr. portraying Doctor Doom.

That said, Gunn still has plenty to prove. He may have a ten-year roadmap for DC, but thus far, the only real output from the DCU has been a season of Creature Commandos. The upcoming Superman film needs to make a strong first impression. While my instinct says it will, the real test will come when another version of Batman eventually hits screens once again.

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